Symbolism in the Final Plague: Death of the Firstborn | Biblical Series: Exodus

In part 6 of Jordan Peterson’s Exodus series, the table discusses chapters twelve through fourteen, specifically the significance of Passover, the importance of ceremonies, and the storyline of the Bible compared to other pieces of literature. They debate whether or not the Jews are called to have compassion for the Egyptians and discuss the meaning behind the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Topics covered include: human nature, sacrifice, the totalitarian spirit, compassion, and new beginnings.

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Why is it the Passover that becomes the Memorial in the foundation and is it the Sacrifice of the innocent and it's this Because it's the sacrifice of the Lambs And the blood and so is the idea here That the foundation of the proper state Is the voluntary sacrifice of the Innocent is it is that what's happening No I don't think it's I don't think I Think that we need to see it really in Terms of of Egypt as As opposites so you have the end of a World Egypt ends God takes the seeds out Of Egypt we have a new beginning which Is also based on sacrifice it's based on Voluntary sacrifice but that's the magic Of of the the Passover sacrifice it's as If if you are willing to give your Firstborn to God God will give him back To you that's the surprise okay so is it Founded on the principle of voluntary Sacrifice no I don't think so you don't Think so okay I think the plain and Obvious thing this was a night of Liberation right I agree with it went Out right now but but there's also a Sacrificial element that's that's too in The Passover how it happened but the Basic thing and they remember it through History Isn't it nice they were free to Say in our prayers Over and over Just as for the Christian the the Crucifixion and Resurrection are the

Central events I believe of Christian Theology The central events of Jewish Theology And I didn't make this up it is constant In Jewish prayer Is creation and exodus if If you deny Either of those and you're certainly Free to you you have put yourself Outside of Judaism that that is the Jewish normative view yeah but I think It's not necessary it's not a zero-sum Game you know we've been talking a lot About reaction and Redemption these two These are the two sides of the same coin Just as for Christians Crossing Resurrection and two sides of the same Coin yeah but it's it's a recreation of The world The giving up of your first fruits and The giving up of that which is primary To God and then the surprise of God Saying actually no You can have it back right and I think That that's definitely part of the it's Part of the story it's not the only Thing yeah I know I wouldn't want to make it by the Way do any of you have a reaction and I'm not I'm not you know urging that There be one but I that idea that we Jews have to remember this because God May not intervene again does that strike You as plausible because you do have the Mystery in in the Bible in some sense

And maybe in history itself is well if God was there so much in the times that Are being described where did he go as Time progressed right that's the Deo Subscondus problem and and and and and I Don't know exactly how to contend with That but but God is not involved in Israel I believe in the ultimate sense there's No question God God is uh constantly the The guardian of Israel it's that's Repeated But it's clear that you know most people Don't know that in the 1660s about the Same percentage of Jews in Europe were Murdered uh as were by in the Holocaust About a third uh or well two-thirds in The case of the Holocaust I believe but One-third and the malinsky pogroms in in Ukraine and slash Poland uh and uh God Saves the Jewish people but but not The Jews and and that that by the way I Have comfort in that I don't expect to Be individually saved I but I I just want to note that Religious Jews in death camps celebrated To the best of their ability to Seder So here they are facing gas Chambers And saying thank you for saving us we Remember you saved us from from Pharaoh It's an incredible thing and that's why I say it gives it gives comfort Even though I'm not being saved now but I know you intervened on our behalf I

Think it makes sense for people to Believe in the fundamental ascendance of The spirit that leads us from slavery Under all conditions because to not have Faith in that is really in some sense to Lose faith in life itself and so that Would even be if you're in in the Situation of a camp what do you have to Have faith in well in some sense just to Live and I think this is something Solzhenitzen observed too to just to Live under those conditions you still Have to believe in the ascendancy the Ultimate tendency of the spirit that Calls men mankind out of tyranny and Isn't it where the story picks up Because God existed before the Jews were Enslaved in Egypt they existed when all The firstborn were killed right and so It sort of depends where where it is Because you could say to them then when They were in Egypt before God said I've Heard I've heard the cries of my people It's sort of this same position right so The god wasn't there right so we can Exactly correct okay okay so I would Like to point out that we've got through One one verse so far Probably It was a big one it was a big one we Need to get Shapiro in here reading Seven yeah so seven days seven days Shall you eat Unleavened bread even the first day you

Shall put away leaven out of your houses For whosoever eateth leavened bread from The first day until the seventh day that Soul shall be cut off from Israel And in the first day there shall be Unholy convocation and in the seventh Day there shall be a holy convocation to You no manner of work shall be done in Them Save that which every man must eat That may that only be done be done of You it's another application of a set of Laws here and and an establishing set of Principles and ye shall observe the Feast of unleavened bread for in this Self-same day have I brought your armies Out of the land of Egypt that's to your Point with regard to Freedom therefore Shall You observe this day in your Generations by an ordinance an Interesting a ordinance because an Ordinance is something that that Ordinates it's like a coordinate it's Like a it's an establishing system by an Ordinance forever In the first month on the 14 month 14th Day of the month even at even Ye shall eat unleavened bread until the 1 and 20th day of the month at even Seven days shall there be no leaven Found in your houses for whosoever Eateth that which is leavened even that Soul shall be cut off from the Congregation of Israel whether he be a

Stranger or born in the land You shall eat nothing leavened in all Your habitations shall you eat Unleavened bread it's very much Emphasized there this this structure of Rules well it's not called Passover in The Torah it's called the holiday of Matzas of unloaded bread And do you think we analyzed the motif Of 11 minutes before by the way I will I Will get a ski jacket is that what it's Called I will buy one for anyone who Could name all the holidays of the Torah Now does this include all the people who Are listening Send in your response No no I'm sorry could you think you Could it's an interesting question and By the way there are seven Again seven oh I can't Come on Greg oh don't let us down I'm I'm gonna kick this to Oz You've got us Dennis the vast majority Of Jews couldn't do they would if they Would because one is very obscure and I Before all right so Shabbat Rosh Hashanah which is called the day of of Trumpets Yom Kippur Passover Pentecost Shavuot Tabernacle Sukkot And then the seventh which is the the One that trips up everybody including Most Jews called shmini atzeret it's his Own holiday it's the after the seven Days of Tabernacles is the Eighth Day

Shmini means eighth at Sarah is Convocation meeting it is the only Holiday that has no purpose other than Having a good time it doesn't Commemorate anything it is a fascinating Thing so I don't I don't work on Jewish Holidays that are in the Torah that's so I remember many of you know Larry Elder Who they got who ran you know for for Governor in California a dear friend of Mine so we used to be on the same Station in Los Angeles and I would be on In the afternoon and he would follow me And in his talk show and he so I said so Larry just want you to know I won't be On tomorrow he goes why I said I well You know I don't broadcast on Jewish Holidays and he goes which holiday is it Amigos Mini at Sarat and the guy was Convinced I made it up to take the day Off

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