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The first two episodes of Exodus, a sixteen-part series on the second book of the Bible, are available now exclusively on DailyWire+. In Exodus Dr. Peterson is joined by formidable theological and literary scholars for an in-depth analysis of the second book in both the Christian Bible and the Torah. Exodus is also a profound demonstration of the way in which God continues delivering freedom from tyranny. Scholars at the table are Dr. Douglas Hedley (Professor of the Philosophy of Religion, Cambridge University), Dr. Os Guinness (English Author and Social Critic), Dr. James Orr (Assistant Professor of Philosophy of Religion, Cambridge), Dennis Prager (author of the Rational Bible Series, Co-Founder of PragerU), Dr. Stephen Blackwood (President of Ralston College), Gregg Hurwitz (novelist, screenwriter, and comic book creator), and Jonathan Pageau (Christian thinker and artist).
In Exodus, Part 1, Jordan discusses with a group of religious scholars, writers, and artists, the third chapter of Exodus. Themes explored include Moses’s openness and willingness to respond to God’s call, the possibility of transforming evil into good, being, and man’s relationship with the divine.
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When you do the office of a midwife to The Hebrew women and see them upon the Birthing stools if it be a son Then you shall kill him And that’s that instrumental usage that You were talking about before there is a Huge issue here The Hebrew is completely indeterminative Whether the midwives were Hebrews or not And I’m not going to throw out Hebrew Often but it’s I I feel very Self-conscious at all But uh for those who know Hebrew they Will know what I’m talking about it can Be the Hebrew midwives or The Midwives Of the Hebrews there is no possible way Based on those two words to know which It is I am convinced and Jewish Tradition doesn’t agree with me I mean Post-biblical Jewish tradition the Torah I think does agree with me but celave Uh I don’t I believe they were they were Egyptian I do not believe he would have Ordered he Hebrew midwives to murder Every Hebrew boy do you think there’s a Do you think there’s a purposeful Ambiguity there to leave it up to the Question that’s beautiful it may well be That’s right well it certainly is the Hebrew the Hebrew is is ambiguous that Is I mean if a tyranny gets corrupt Enough then people turn against Themselves that’s right however Just on logical grounds when he gets
Angry at them For not doing it it would be odd he’d Get angry at Hebrews for not killing Hebrews but my biggest proof you’re Coming to Where they s it says that they feared God and didn’t listen to Pharaoh again It’s one of my favorite lines in the Whole Bible You either fear Humans or you fear God fear God is the Root of freedom and wisdom and they Uh the word for God is Not Jehovah or Yahweh it’s Elohim So when Jews fear God it’s generally Feared Yahweh and in this case it’s fear Elohim and the universal word for God And I’m convinced that they are Egyptians Douglas do you have any sense of what it Means In this passage and more broadly That the fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom and and an appropriate let’s say Precondition for Freedom why why do you Think it’s conceptualized as as fear Well I think there’s uh a proper fear That in this case I think is linked to Transcendence So Um there’s the the fear of the the Tyrant which is normal and natural Um and which we are all subject to but There should be a greater fear I the Fear of the Transcendence
Violating that right right Um and of course this is why the uh Post-modern attack on traditional Western culture is so dangerous I mean Of course it goes back to the very Origins of Western culture with the Surface but the idea that uh there is no Such thing as a an objective moral order And there certainly is no Transcendent Basis for that Um that would make this whole narrative Unintelligible it also makes the Tyrant The final Arbiter in some real sense Right You know people have asked me And I’m always embarrassed by this but People have commented on my courage for Speaking up so to speak and I think you Don’t actually understand the situation I’m not courageous in my speaking up I’m More afraid of the alternative and part Of the reason for that was that when I Was a clinician I spent thousands tens Of thousands of hours dealing with People’s serious problems one of the Things I learned was and I really Learned this was that You don’t get away with anything and so You might think you can bend the fabric Of reality and that you can treat people Instrumentally and that you can bow to The Tyrant without and violate your Conscience without cost but that is just Not the case the the you will pay the
Piper when you pay you might not even Notice the causal connection between the Sin and the payment and one of the Things you do in Psychotherapy is People’s lives take a Twist and they go Very badly wrong and when you walk back Through people’s lives with them you Come to these Choice points where you Meet the devil at the crossroads and you Find out that well you went left let’s Say in downhill when you should have Gone right and uphill and now you’re Paying the price for that and you don’t Impose that as a therapist You help people Discover that or rediscovered because They often know at the time that they’ve Made an error and then forget and then Rationalize the forgetting and then you Know and then multiply the lies and so But that’s that’s tremendously difficult To do within a secular frame I mean I Think You found ways of of doing that I think Jordan I’m thinking actually of somebody Like Victor Frankl and his uh his idea That that sense of the logos of a kind Of a meaning is what gives you a kind of Existential drive and helped him survive The the horrors of the Holocaust but More typically it’s it’s religion it’s a Sort of religious framing that it gives People this the power to resist tyranny Well that that religious framing seems
In part even if you think about it in a Secular sense is that like when you’re Maybe you’re making a choice to do the Instrumental and easy thing but there’s Part of you that knows that that’s wrong Not always sometimes you just make a Mistake because you don’t know but but Often you know and yet you pick the Easier path let’s say and the part of The manner in which God is portrayed Throughout the biblical Corpus but I Would say in in Traditions around the World as that phenomena Phenomenon that That alerts you to your own misbehavior And it is really something again I Really learned from Jung Contra Freud in Some real sense is that And contranisha who believe that maybe We could create our own values is that There’s something within that is Transcendent because it isn’t only in You it’s in everyone in some fundamental And real sense plus it’s Eternal in some Fundamental and real sense and it calls You on your misbehavior but don’t you Think our culture is approaching a kind Of Crisis point in other words the Postmodernists everything’s constructive Truth is not there Etc no reality except What you make it but of course truth is Always about something as C.S Lewis used To say and what it’s about is reality Well there’s this insistence the wall
That point up to point today on the post Because there is reality it’s as if We’re insisting that there is nothing Other than towers of Babel there isn’t Anything they’re being built against or Shielding us from it’s it’s just one Tower of Babel after another and it can Be and I can’t help but see a real Tyrannical demand for power in that Because one of the things I’ve often Wondered is well why are the Constructivists the radical constructive Is so insistent that there’s no core Human nature when Really the evidence that there’s a core Human nature is pretty damn strong Particularly perhaps if you think Biologically so why with why this Insistence and I can’t help but think It’s because well you want to remake People in the image of your ideology and So you have to insist that they have no Intrinsic nature because otherwise the Pesky realities of the Transcendent Nature get in the way of your luciferian Perception no God no truth there is only Power right right well that that’s the That’s the dostoevskian issue in some Real sense isn’t it [Music] Thank you
